that is critical to know what the resources are right up front. we're going to ask them to plan for recovery based on their unmet needs and based on the funding available to help the recovery. >> >> in the grants that have the greatest flexibility, for example, a small business, which is the backbone, the economic backbone, which i have visited street after street of small businesses that have been closed and are trying to make a decision, do i start my business again or to i not, based on trying to get a sense from the government as to will there will be any circumstances under which the grant will be considered. while many told me they appreciate a small business loan, that is just adding debt to a debt they already have. they to get it to start their business. they took out debt to survive the great recession. and now they are faced with disaster. >> that is a fair statement. in fact, with the flexibility to determine how to design that program, they could determine to provide grants to small businesses to get them restarted. in other situation